"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
01/21/2019 at 11:52 • Filed to: ford fusion, ford, fusion, modeo, ford fusion 2020, sedan, sedans, news, ford news
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"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
01/21/2019 at 11:52 • Filed to: ford fusion, ford, fusion, modeo, ford fusion 2020, sedan, sedans, news, ford news | 3
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Speaking of which, it would be nice if we had the
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here. With the 2.0T and AWD it’s a good package.
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 11:59 |
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I’ve been asking for a Fusion wagon since 2013.
412GTI
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 12:10 |
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I think the Fusion is still a good car. I’m always pleasantly surprised when I drive one. It would’ve been nice to see them throw in a 8/9 speed transmission in it, but eh, the 6 speed auto is adequate.
Spanfeller is a twat
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 12:14 |
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The Fusion is a good car, a lot better than a passat if you ask me.
ranwhenparked
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 12:20 |
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Supposedly, Ford dealers have requested that it be replaced by a crossover that keeps the Fusion name so as to maintain brand equity. Would be nice if they just lifted the Mondeo wagon and threw on some plastic cladding and roof rails. Call it the Fusion Active.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> ranwhenparked
01/21/2019 at 12:21 |
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I know right? win win.
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Spanfeller is a twat
01/21/2019 at 12:24 |
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a good big smaller than the competition tho. I’d say interior wise is more comparable to a 97 Accord than a 2017.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
01/21/2019 at 12:29 |
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I guess so, but it’s very cheap, well equipped, and it drives nicely
Oh the accord does that too?
nevermind...
Svend
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 12:35 |
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I was hard pressed to see a difference until I compared it with the current Mondeo.
Current
Refreshed
Appears they gave them the lower valance from the ST-Line and Vignale
ST-Line
Vignale
Gerry197
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
01/21/2019 at 12:42 |
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The Fusion or the Passat interior vs Accord? I’ve been in the new sedan interiors for all the major brands, they all seem pretty equal to me.
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Gerry197
> Spanfeller is a twat
01/21/2019 at 12:43 |
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The US Fusion feels more German than the NA Passat for sure. The Passat downgraded it’s interior for NA market while everyone else upgraded.
PS9
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
01/21/2019 at 12:51 |
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You could save the fusion if you can get like 100,000 or so other people to join you.
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PS9
> Gerry197
01/21/2019 at 12:52 |
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Downgrading a key product in a critical market? Who’s idea was that and how soon can we fire them ?
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Gerry197
> PS9
01/21/2019 at 12:59 |
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That’s what VW thought Americans wanted, a larger cheaper sedan. Worked out great for a couple of years, until the competition were selling higher quality interiors and improved chassis/handling for essentially the same price. VW was being out-German by the Japanese and Americans in North America.
They did the same for the VW Passat for NA, didn’t even have a fully independent rear suspension. Cheaper interior but a low price.
What this did was alienate the VW faithful who weren’t happy with the downgrades and lost new customers to other brands that were offer better dynamics and quality.
duurtlang
> Gerry197
01/21/2019 at 13:04 |
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Because it is. The current Mondeo (Fusion) is less suited to the European market than the previous Mondeo (driving dynamics , possibly too cheap and large), but it was designed with Europe at least partially in mind. The NA Passat is not available in Europe nor would it be competitive. It’s too big and too cheap.
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duurtlang
> ranwhenparked
01/21/2019 at 13:12 |
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The current one is ancient and it’s not even sure there will be a next gen Fusion/Mondeo in Europe. The market has moved from D-segment wagons to C/D segment premium wagons (3-series) and smaller non-premium C-segment crossovers for the same price (Escape). Additionally, the wagon version of the Focus has grown enough to be a feasible family car while the Mondeo is getting a bit too big for something non-premium, so its market is drying up rapidly.
xyzabc
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
01/21/2019 at 16:00 |
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... looks like a “ dinner roll” with wheels.
facw
> Svend
01/21/2019 at 16:49 |
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Round fog lamps are obviously too outdated to be used in a modern car.
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facw
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
01/21/2019 at 16:51 |
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My family rented one in England, seemed perfectly fine space- wise for four adults. I don’t know how it compares to the competition, but didn’t seem like space was a big problem.
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Svend
> facw
01/21/2019 at 18:30 |
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? They are round on the new Focus there.
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facw
> Svend
01/21/2019 at 18:38 |
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Well I was joking, but the fog lights do seem to be the only major exterior change with the refresh.
To some extent, it is easier to make weirdly shaped foglights with LEDs compared to the more regular shapes allowed by traditional halogen bubs.
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Svend
> facw
01/21/2019 at 19:24 |
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My bad.
Wasn’t sure as both old and new cars have a multitude of different shapes of foglight.
Most cases the LED DRLs are in the headlight cluster with the foglight being a halogen or xenon bulb.
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PS9
> Gerry197
01/22/2019 at 02:43 |
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VW Passat for NA, didn’t even have a fully independent rear suspension.
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Gerry197
> PS9
01/22/2019 at 03:54 |
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My bad, I meant Jetta.
my full quote...
“They did the same for the VW Passat for NA, didn’t even have a fully independent rear suspension.”
You can see I was trying to refer to their other model, which should have been the Jetta.
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PS9
> Gerry197
01/22/2019 at 09:59 |
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I meant that they don’t offer IRS. Really VW? Come on, my 1996 Toyota whatever has IRS, but you can’t get it on a new Jetta despite it having ‘german engineering’. For shame.
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Gerry197
> PS9
01/22/2019 at 11:36 |
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It was for price cutting, however they didn’t last long. They updated to IRS on the previous gen Jetta mid-cycle I believe.
Here is a good article on it...
For current models, VW learned their lessen on went back to higher quality fitment.